Monday, March 3, 2008

15- الست = حرام

انا ايه اكبر مشكلة بتواجهنى فى المجتمع اللى احنا عايشين فيه ده؟
فيما يتعلق بالرجالة و الستات و صراع الجبابرة ده؟

كلمتين و بس ............. (الدين) و (الحرام)
الراجل اسهل حاجة عنده انه يقول لأة عشان حرام .. او انه يفرض الهيمنة باسم ان الدين اداله الحق ده.

و انا بكبر بقى منظر طبيعى اوى ان الاقى اى مناقشة فى الدين تتحور و تتحوصل و تتمحور حول الحجاب و عمل المرأة و اذن السفر و الحق الشرعى فى الطلاق... بقيت مناقشة الدين فى مناقشة مدى الكبس على نفس الست و بقى مقياس الحرية هو فى قد ايه لحم متعرى .

و بقى عادى أوى اننى اتفرج على النشرة على الحكومة الاسلامية الجديدة اللى مسكت البلد دى و اللى اول حاجة عملتها فرض الحجاب على الستات و تحجيم دور الست و يا ترى هتسوق ولا لأ و هتشتغل ولا لأ و هتبان فى التليفزيون ولا لأ و هتنتخب و ترشح نفسها ولا لأ .

و بقى مألوف اوى ان الاقى ان المرجعية فى اى صراع للست عشان تقتحم مهنة جديدة هو انها دينيا ماتنفعش
و يجتهد عالم الرجال فى تطليع قطط فاطسة فى احاديث مشكوك فى امرها و تفسيرات فردية ملتوية لآيات قرآنية عشان يبقى الرد انه الست حرام تشتغل فى القضاء و العسكرية و الشرطة و الجيش و الوزارات المؤثرة و الجراحات الحساسة و رئاسة الجمهورية.

و مابقاش غريب لودنى انى اسمع من الرجالة اللى بقابلهم ..باسمعهم .. باقرالهم .. انه تحجيم دور الست ده لانهم فى الاساس وجودهم متحجم بحكم ديننا و بالتالى فهو المنطقى ان يكون تفاعلهم مع الحياة اقل .. و اكيد خبرتهم و حكمتهم و حكمهم ... اقل تأثيرا فى الحياة



و الفكرة ان المقاومة من ناحية الست كانت فى اتجاهين .. طول عمرى حربى فى جبهتين, جبهة الاقوى بحكم قوانين الحياة اللى رافض التخلى عن اى فتفوتة من هيمنته و رجال لقم فى الدين ما يصلح زريعة ( هى زريعة كده صح؟) لأن يكون الآمر الناهى . و جبهة ضعيف مستأنث خايف من مواجهة اى حروب اذا طلب مكان فى الجيوش و ستات استسهلوا ومر حمل الدنيا على الرجالة تحت بند ان الستات اضعف و انهم قوامون. اتسحلوا التنبلة و خافوا من الشقى .. من الاحساس بالفشل اللى قبل اى نجاح .. من امتحان الطوح لما تشد التحديات و من اختبار عمق الايمان لما بتتشكك القيم ( يعنى كلام كبير بشكل!!) خافوا ما يبقوش قدها .. لقيوا اللى يقلهم كنوا ... وقروا ... قالوا يا سلام!!

طيب هل انا عمرى ما قابلت راجل نظرته للست خالية من التسفيه ده؟ طبعا شفت و سمعت ... بس المطب فين بقى ؟؟ انهم بيكونوا حاجة من اتنين فى اغلب الاحيان


- يا اما عايشين فيها فى دور الاجانب
- يا اما الدين لا يمثل اى حيز فى حياتهم على الاطلاق

لكن انى الاقى راجل مصرى عربى شرقى مسلم مؤمن باصوله و بدينه و شايف ان اللى بيحصل لا يمت لاى دين بصلة هو ده بقى التحدى ...

و ان شاء الله هلاقيه!!!

بس لو لقيته مش هسيبه ...ههههههههههه

شفتوا الحقد وصل لحد فين

198 comments:

Bella said...

شوفي ياستي

مش ح اقول لك بوست هايل كالعادة

لان فعلا موضوعاتك هايلة

الاول اقول لك أن الصح هو ذريعة
وليس زريعة

نيجي بقى لموضوع الدين والحرام وتحجيم دور الست

صراحة الرجل الشرقي بشكل عام لايشعر بارتياح في ظل وجود ست قوية الشخصية وتتحلي بقدر من الذكاء ولهذا يسعى لتحجيمها والسيطرة عليها بشتى الوسائل ومن هذه الوسائل وسيلة قال الله وقال الرسول بطريقة انتقائية ينتقي فيها مايناسب اغراضه ويغفل بالكلية عما لايخدم مصالحه

وطبعا لجوءه للدين معروف لان الناس صعب تتناقش في امور الدين او حتى تعترض على اي حاجة حتى لاتتهم بتهم قد تصل للتكفير والعياذ بالله فيؤثروا الصمت الجميل امام كل من يتحدث في الدين

فتجدي الرجل عندما يتحدث عن قوامته على المرأة مستدلا بالقوامة لاثبات وضعه الاعلى على المرأة تجديه يستخدمه في كثير من الاحيان في غير محله ككلمة كأن تجدي مثلا رجل في الشارع لو كسر عليكي في اشارة مرور يذكرك بأن الرجال قوامون على النساء دون ان يكمل باقي الآية فيبدو الامر للمستمع اللى معندوش فكرة وكأن فعلا الرجل افضل من المرأة ولهذا له السبق حتى في اشارة مرور

وهكذا

تجدي اقتطاع واجتزاء للكلام خارج سياقه ثم تحويره لخدمة اغراض اي آدم يريد التمسح بالدين لقمع المرأة وتحقيق نصر عليها والارتفاع فوقها درجة

وقيسي على ذلك مايتعلق بالعمل ووجوب جلوسها في البيت وي شيئ تتصوريه حتى تصلي لمرحلة سير المرأة خلف زوجها او حتى عدم ابداءها اي راي مخالف لراي زوجها حتى لو كان رايها في رئيس الوزراء

يعني اشياء من هذا القبيل وكلها تمشي في طريق تحجيم دور المرأة والتفوق عليها لان حجمها اقل وليس لكبر حجمه هو او لتفوقه الفعلي عليها

ومن هنا تبدأ الحروب ضد اي امرأة متفوقة في اي مجال للتقليل من شأنها او تصوير الامر على انه استثناء او انه ليس من طبائع الامور وهكذا

اللى يفرس صحيح ليس راي الرجل

ولكن رد فعل المرأة نفسها
وركون الكثير من النساء لحكاية الضعف وانه من طبيعة المرأة وباقي الاسطوانات المشروخة دي واعتبار اي خروج عن هذا الناموس بمثابة خرق لميثاق الشرف الانثوي الذي يخرج من الانوثة ويحول صاحبة اي اعتراض لمسترجلة او مشروع رجل سينبت له شنب وذقن لو فكرت مجرد تفكير في التعبير عن راي مخالف

الموضوع ذو شجون ياعزيزتي

بتنكشيني ليه الله يسامحك

هههههههههههه

تحياتي

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tohamy said...

عندك حق
متفق معكى جدا

rv said...

"طيب هل انا عمرى ما قابلت راجل نظرته للست خالية من التسفيه ده؟ طبعا شفت و سمعت ... بس المطب فين بقى ؟؟ انهم بيكونوا حاجة من اتنين فى اغلب الاحيان


- يا اما عايشين فيها فى دور الاجانب
- يا اما الدين لا يمثل اى حيز فى حياتهم على الاطلاق"


وإيه المشكلة؟


التفسيرات الملتوية والقطط الفاطسة لا يخرجها من لا يريد للمرأة أن تحصل على حقوقها، بل بالعكس !!


لو اتبعنا كل النواهي الدينية بلا تفسيرات ملتوية ولا قطط فاطسة فقط الدين الخام كما هو سنجد عشرات المحاذير والنواهي التي تمنع أي إمرأة من ممارسة حياة طبيعية بعصر مثل عصرنا


التفسيرات الملتوية والقطط الفاطسة هي (في كثير من المسائل وليس حقوق المرأة فقط) مجرد وسيلة للتوفيق بين إيماننا الفطري بالدين وثقتنا العمياء بصحته، وبين حاجتنا الملحة في نفس الوقت للتحرر قليلًا من بعض قيوده الصارمة لكي تسير الحياة :)


ولو لم تخرج التفسيرات الملتوية والقطط الفاطسة لبقينا بعقلية العصور الوسطى أو لكنا مثل السعودية مثلًا، ولما كنتِ أنتٍ وقتها قد تعلمتٍ وعملتٍ واختلطتٍ بالرجال واستخدمتٍ الإنترنت دون محرم :)


طبعًا كلامي لن يعجبك، لكن هي مجرد نصيحة فقط..لا مشكلة أنت ترتبطي بمن يتشبه بالأجانب أو بمن لا يبالي بالدين طالما احترمك واحترم حقوقك


لأنك في كل الأحوال لو وجدت إنسانًا متدينًا ذو عقلية متفتحة يعطيك كامل حقوقك فهو في كل الأحوال سيكون مقصرًا دينيًا ومن اتباع التفسيرات الملتوية لكي يسير حياته بهذا العصر كما شرحت بأعلى :)


باختصار، قيمي الإنسان على أنه إنسان فقط، وهل يحبك ويحترمك أم لا



هذه مجرد نصيحة فقط، ولا أسعى لجدل ديني أو فقهي أو تفاسيري من أي نوع


وأنا بالمناسبة لا أؤمن بالدين كما لابد وأنك خمنت أثناء القراءة، لكني لا أجد مشكلة بالتدين طالما ساير الحياة ولم يعطلها


ولا أقول أنه ينبغي عليك ألا تنتظرى زوجًا متدينًا منفتحًا لأنك لن تجديه، بالعكس ستجدين منهم الكثير



لكن في نفس الوقت لا تضيعي من يدك فرصة جيدة لشخص يحبك ويحترمك لمجرد أنه يتشبه بالأجانب أو غير مبال بالدين


وبالنهاية حبه لك هو الفيصل الأول والأخير في مدى احترامه لك وتسليمه بحقوقك


سواء كان متشددًا أو معتدلًا أو لا مباليًا أو لا يؤمن بالدين من أساسه :)


وأتمنى لك كل التوفيق والحياة السعيدة مع زوج محب :)

Emma said...

@ bella:

اولا شكرا يا ست الكل
ثانيا شكرا على ذريعة
المهم فغلا ان احنا ما نزهقش و مانضعفش .. اغلب الاحيان الارهاب الفكرى و الدينى بينجح مع الستات اوى

الموضوع بيقلب المواجع على الكل يا بنتى!!!


@ Psycho:
قليتهم اكيد احسن من اشباههم يا لوزة ..ههههه



@tohamy:
شكرا يا زعيم


@rv:
مش عارفة منين الكلام جاب انى اليائسة الباحثة بس عموما هو انطباع خاطىء

احترامى و احترام حقوقى بناء على ايه؟؟؟
بعدين دول فى احيان كتير بتكبر فى دماغهم انهم يستشيخوا على كبر
لو انتى شايفة انه ده عادى و ان الاسلام بجد عامل كده يبقى دى مشكلة كبيرة .. المشكلة اللى انا و بيلا اتكلمنا عنها و الحرب اللى هنفضل بنحاربها

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Omar El-Tahan said...

كوني رجل فبالتأكيد سيكون لي رأي قد تختلفي معه كثيراً وغالباً لأن تصنيفي يدخل في بند الرجعي المتخلف

ولكن في الحقيقة أنا مؤمن بأن البنت لازم تشتغل ولو لفترة من حياتها عشان تفهم الدنيا ماشية ازاي والفلوس بتيجي منين والضغوط اللي بنعيشها ...ده غير ان فيه وظايف وجود المرأة فيها ضرورة مش كمالة .. زي التمريض وبعض تخصصات الطب... يعني ما تركنش في البيت لحد أما تصدي وبعدين تيجي تتجوز تلاقي انها في وادي وعريسها في وادي وتقريباً مافيش بينهم حاجة مشتركة

لكن السؤال الرجعي المتخلف بقى:

هو ربنا هايدخل الست الجنة بحسن تبعلها لزوجها ولا بإثبات نفسها وكفائتها وقدرتها على العمل والتفوق على الرجال؟

يعني من الآخر لو تعارض شغلها مع بيتها هاتعمل ايه؟؟ هاتقول زي 90% من الستات انها قادرة على التوفيق و طبعاً كل اللي في البيت ليهم رأي مختلف ولا أصلاً البيت بيجي في المرتبة الثانية بعد الشغل ... ولا هاتبص لأيه اللي هايرضي ربنا عنها؟؟

الموضوع تخين أصلاً والكلام فيه كتير ... بس أنا حبيت أحدد اتجاه كلامي في المفاضلة والإختيار اللي كل البنات شايفين انهم قادرين عليه وبمنتهى السهولة وبصباع رجلهم الصغير كمان

بالمناسبة صحيح ... والكلام ده للشباب الجميل اللي الدين عندهم بعافية .... الرسول أوصى باختيار صاحب الدين وصاحبة الدين ... يعني الحب والإحترام مش كفاية لوحدهم عشان الزواج يكون ناجح ونافع للمجتمع وللدين ... خلونا نفكر دقيقة واحدة إن الأهل عندهم حبة دين صغيرين كده وبيحاولوا يربوا اولادهم على اساسهم ... يا ترى أفضل ولا يسيبوهم للتليفزيون وللناني وللمجتمع والناس؟؟

Emma said...

اه... واضح يا اخ عمر ان فى حاجة فايتاك و اعتقد انك هاتجيبها اما تقرا رقم 4
اعادة تعريف الزوجة
هتعرف انى دماغى ياظة خالص ...ههههههههه


Egyptian Feminist Chic

متشكرة اوى على كلماتك و على حضورك و اكيد انا يهمنى اوى انك تبقى موجودة دايما هنا .. و ربنا يسهل و يوفقنا نعمل اى شىء و نحرك اى جزء من الكيان الغلط
ان شاء الله هنموت و احنا عاملين حاجة

Omar El-Tahan said...

حلوة أخ عمر دي ... عامة أنا فاهم قصدك كويس لأني بالفعل قرأت الموضوع بتاع إعادة تعريف الزوجة ... وأتفق معاكي إن فيه حاجات كتير غلط وبايظة في دماغ الراجل الشرقي اللي متعود انه شهريار في بيت أبوه وفي بيته هو شخصياً ... بس أنا كلامي كان محدد في نقطة بعيدة عن الواجبات المفروضة على الست سوء استغلال الرجل الشرقي لوجود زوجة معه يفترض به ان يقدمها على نفسه في الكثير من الأمور تقديراً لمسئوليته عنها و احتراماً لمجهوداتها في بيته.

فيا ريت تحددي اللي المفروض أفهمه عشان المناقشة تكون موضوعية

سمية said...

الاخت الحقود
اختلف معكى الى ابعد مدى فانا امراة مثلك وطبيبة مثلك وارى ان ما تقوليه ليس الا تمرد على الشرع الذى لم يؤلفه الرجال او يختلقه المجتمع الذكورى بل هو من عند الخالق وضعى مليون خط تحت كلمة الخالق الله سبحانه وتعالى خلق الانسان وجعل منه نوعين ذكر وانثى ...نوعين مختلفين وكان من الممكن ان يخلق نوعا واحدا ولكن سبحانه وتعالى خلق نوعين مختلفين متكاملين وليسا متعاديين وهو سبحانه وتعالى حين شرع القوانين التى لا تعجبك كان ادرى بما يصلح من خلقهم (الا يعلم من خلق وهو اللطيف الخبير ) وانا كزوجة وام ادركت هذا الاختلاف البيولوجى والنفسى الكبيييييير جدا بينى وبين الرجل الذى هو زوجى ... وليس معنى القوامة للرجل ان الدين جعل المراة اقل شانا من الرجل ولكن القوامة بالدرجة الاولى مسؤولية ونحن الان نشكو من قلة الرجولة والجدية فى الرجال الا تلا حظين يا عزيزتى ان الكثير من شباب هذه الايام لا يتسموا بالجدية ولا يريدون تحمل مسؤولية لانهم فقدوا معنى القوامة الحقيقى.
عزيزتى ادعوك لفهم اعمق لدينك ولانوثتك

سمية said...

كمان ملاحظة من فضلكم
الاجيال القديمة من الستات غير المتعلمات اللى كانوا قاعدين فى بيوتهم يربوا اولادهم اثمرت اجيال من العظماء الوطنيين ناس كان عندهم اخلاق الرجالة رجالة بجد ... جدعنة وشهامةو ورجولة المجتمع كان كله لم يكن يختلف على الصح والخطا او على العيب والجائز اما الان فالوضع كالتالى: الاب يعمل خارج المنزل ولا يعود الا فى المساء والام تعمل ايضا ولا يوجد لديهم الوقت الكافى للجلوس مع الابناء لللعب معهم للتحدث معهم ,لتوجيههم, لنصحهم, لاعطائهم الخبرات والنتيجة اسر مفككة , طلاق , فجوة بين الاباء والابناء ,ادمان , قلة تربية وقلة ادب ,شباب لم يتربوا على اى مبادىء او اخلاق وطبعاالحال فى البلد غنى عن الوصف وكل هذا بسبب التفكك الاسرى الناتج عن تخلى المراة عن دورها الحقيقى فى العناية باولادها ولمن لم يجرب الانجاب بعد ويستهين بتربية الاولاد اقول له ان تنشئة ولد واحد صالح هو انجاز عظيم وعمل لا يعادله اى عمل اخر تقوم به المراة بس يا ريت تعمله صح
اما عن موضوع الحجاب فببساطة اذكر انه ليس اختراع ذكورى ولكنه امر من الخالق اذا ارادت احداهن الاعتراض عليه فليكن ذلك مع من امر به وليس مع بشر مثلها فلتنتظر الى يوم القيامة لتثبت للخالق وجهة نظرها فى عدم قبول حجاب المراة ... حلو الكلام

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AL O7't somaia..
Abqaay allah zo7'ran ll watn w ll gamee3. eh ely enti bt2oleeh da!

awlan...de msh tary2t rad...akeed eman fahma kowis awi denha w onosetaha..f maynf3sh tathmeha b 2naha msh fahma l mograd enk mo7'talefa m3aha f ra2y.

Sanyan...3la fekra ya o7't "Feminist" de msh shytema..ya ba7'taha ely t3rf teb2a feminist bgd w 7a2 w 7a2e2y.

salysan b2a...momkn 7adretek tebtaly fatty? syateek mo3yana mn dar el efta w e7na msh wa7'den balna wla 7aga??

soma eh ely 7ashar el 7egab now f el modo3...malk enti w mal el 7egab..malk enti w mal 3elaqt ay 7ad b rabena...syatek m3aki tawkeel ll faty f el deen w e7na msh wa7'den balna wla ehh??

3rfa..mothers like you create the fucked up masculine society we are living among!

Salam ya ....

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يا دكتور سمور حضرتك مقولتيش ديانتك ايه ...ايا ما كان ولو كنت مسلمة فاظن ان ثقافتك الدينية ضحلة واسالك كيف حكمت انت ان ايمان فاهمة دينها كويس اذا كنت حضرتك مش فاهماه اصلا؟

موضوع الفيمينست دة موضوع طويل وهن فى رايى الشخصى مجموعة من النساءالمعقدات بشكل او باخر اللى الشيطان مسلطهم على انفسهم والغرب مسلطهم على مجتماعتنا علشان يخربوها ويخلوها منحله زى مجتماعتهم وللاسف دى الحاجة الوحيدة اللى بناخدها من الغرب لكن جديتهم والتزامهم للاسف مبيوصلوش عندنا
موضوع الافتاء انا لم اقل فتوى واحدة وانا ذكرت بعض الاشياء التى يعرفها كل
(مسلم)
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سلام يا....محترمة

Eman Hashim said...

الحقيقة يا سمية ردك بغض النظر عن اى شىء دل على انك حافظة مش فاهمة
كلامك المرصوص فوق بعضه ده ماجابش اى حاجة للى انا بقوله
انا باتكلم عن اللى بيستخدموا الدين عشان يكبسوا على نفس الست من غير وجه حق
سواء ازواج او حكام او راجل بتقابليه
قوامة الراجل على مراته مش قصتنا هنا نهائى

بس انا عايزة اسأل سؤال :
لما انت - و انتى طبعا حرة فى القرار ده- شايفة ان الاسلم لولادك انك تعدى جنبهم و تراعيهم ... دخلتى طب ليه؟
فشخرة بالمجموع ولا استخصار؟؟
انا مش ضد انك تعدى فى البيت نهائى .. انتى حرة فى ده
بس ماكانش له لازمة تاخدى مكان كان ممكن حد تانى يستفيد و يفيد بيه و لا هى انانية و السلام؟؟؟

سمية said...

ايه يا ايمان اللى انتى عايزة تثبتيه بالظبط ؟ ان الرجالة بيستخدموا الدين عشان يسلبوا المراة حقوقها؟ دة كلام غلط وللاسف لانك لسة معرفتيش الراجل صح فانتى بتحكمى كاى تلميذة اعلام من اللى بيتفرجوا على خطب السيدة سوزان مبارك ويصفقوا بحرارة للسيدة مشيرة خطاب ومثيلاتها من سيدات نوادى الروتارى والليونيز
الاسلام اعطى المراة حقوقها الكاملة اعطى الرجل حقوق والزم كلا منهما بواجبات و(قوانين)
اذن انا كامراة مسلمة لى حقوق وعلى واجبات وملزمة بقوانين الشرع , على ان احترمها حتى وان كان بعضها يقيد من بعض حريتى فانا اعلم انى بذلك ارضى خالقى وانه سوف يرضينى .
ان افضل شىء يفعله الانسان هو ان يشعر انه يرضى الله تعالى ويطيع اوامره حتى فى الاشياء التى لا ترغبها نفسه
انا دخلت طب ليه ...كانت عندى احلام... اتغيرت 180 درجة لما حسيت ان اولادى اهم من اى فلوس او مستقبل مهنى وان ربنا سبحانه وتعالى لما هاقف قدامه يوم القيامه هيسالنى عن الامانة ويقوللى عملتى ايه فى الامانة اللى انا اديتهالك؟
يا بنات الدنيا مابتمشيش على مزاج حد وكل واحد مننا فى مكان ايا ما كان لازم يكون فى دماغه انه فى مسؤولية هيتسال عنها يوم القيامة...شبابك عملت بيه ايه؟ فلوسك كسبتها منين وصرفتها على ايه؟ ..حياتك عملت فيها ايه؟ فيه ناس هتيجى يوم القيامه ربنا يقوللهم اللى انتو عملتوه فى الدنيا دة كان عبث (وقدمنا الى ما عملوا من عمل فجعلناه هباءا منثورا)
طبعا انا مش ضد عمل الست ولكن على الانسان ان يرتب اولوياته ويشوف ايه هى المسؤوليه المطلوبة منه واللى ممكن من خلالها يوصل للجنه.

TAREK said...

يعني يا دكتورة سمية أنتي عنما كنتي في التانوية و أثناء الجامعة لم تلاحظي ابدا واحدة مخلفة وعندها اولاد وان عليها مسئولية كبير جدا تجاه أولادها ألا بعد ما درستي 5 سنوات طب + سنوات الامتياز ولم تزوجتي
وانجبتي أخير لحظتي!!!!! أنا أعرف اللي بيدخولوا طب دول بيكون معدل ذكائهم عالي شوية وبيقدروا يلاحظوا كل ما يدور حولهم كويس جدا
ثما هتقولي أيه لربنا يقوم القيمة عن سنوات الطب السبعة اللي ضيعتيها هباء
هتقولي أيه لربنا عن مصريف التعليم المجاني اللي أنفقة علي حضرتك هباء هتقولي أيه عن الفلوس اللي أخذتيها من أسراتك وضاعت في اللا شئ أثناء دراست الطب

drsamoor said...

Mam Somaia..
first, who give u the right to preach us in the 1st place? ur using a preaching language thats totally unacceptable.." ya banat" who made the hotshot miss i know it all?

2nd its not acceptable for you to evaluate my religious knwoledge...who are u in the 1st place to say that i knw nuthn bout my religion..." la yas7'rn nesa2n mn nesa2" ya ostaza.

and yeah am well raised el7amdallah...what words i used?? " fucked up?" fucked up is not a swearing...return to ur dictionary.

am not going to enter a stupid debate about femnisim cuz obviously u ve been brain washed by another type of media. and am not gonna define to you what is feminism...i bet u won't be able to let ur self open ur mind a bit and absorb the reality.

and Hell Yeah...i totally agree with Tarek...Pay back the society the money that was payed on you for you to become a physician...u just took someone's eslse place mam.

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اولا يا اخ طارق انا متعلمتش تعليم مجانى ومتعلمتش فى مصر اصلا واهلى كانوا بيدفعوا ضرايب بالاف رغم اننا مكناش عايشين فى مصر دة بالنسبة للفلوس اللى اتصرفت على واللى انتوا زعلانين عليها وحتى دلوقت انا اولادى فى مدارس خاصة وبنتعالج على حسابنا من غير حتى مع نعمل اشتراك فى النقابةعلى الرغم من ان زوجى برضه من دافعى الضرائب... استريحتوا؟
ثانيا ودة الاهم: الطب علم عظيم ومش لازم الواحد يتعلم علشان يشتغل العلم النافع فى حد ذاته مكسب كبير وعظيم يعنى لا هو تضييع وقت ولا فلوس زى ما حضراتكم قلتم .
ثالثا: سؤال محتاج شوية امانة وموضوعية... هل لما اشتغل هفيد نفسى ولا بفيد غيرى؟
الاجابة هى ان لما نبص حوالينا نلاقى الاف مؤلفة من الدكاترة فى كل المحافظات وعمارات كاملة متغطية بيفط الدكاترة ستات ورجالة فى كل التخصصات يبقى خلاص انا اللى لازم اسيب بيتى عشان ازاحم الكم الهايل دة وبعدين بصراحة كدة يا جماعه الطب بقى تجارة ومعادش مهنة انسانية والدكاترة بقوا بيتاجروا بالام المرضى ويبيعوهم لشركات الادوية ومعامل التحاليل ...على سبيل المثال انا بادفع لدكتورة الاسنان 150 جنيه فى حشو الضرس الواحد وبادفع 150 كشف بس لدكتور الانف والاذن علشان يبص على ودن ابنى باالاوتوسكوب بالذمة دة ولا دى كدة بيردوا الجميل للمجتمع ولا بيستغلوا اوجاع الناس؟
رابعا: انا مقلتش الست متشتغلش دكتورة او مدرسة او خياطة او اى حاجة تفيد المجتمع وتتناسب مع انوثتها مش تروح تشتغل مهندسة فى موقع وسط الرجالة وتاخد مكان مهندس كان ممكن بالوظيفة دى يفتح بيت ويستتها بدل ما تعنس.

الاخت سمور انا لما بقول يا بنات لانى اكبر منكن بسنوات مش لاى سبب تانى وان شاء الله اراجع القاموس اصل يمكن لما بطلت اسمع رونان كيتنج وبراين ادامز الانجليزى بتاعى بقى مش قد كدة !!!!!عموما اللهجة الساخرة بتاعتك مش محتاجة قاموس يا مام
سلام

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